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The Pen and the Sword: JoAnna Novak

In the summer of 2019 Joanna Novak was five months pregnant and struggling with her existing role as a writer and her emerging role as a mother – questioning whether motherhood would change or destroy her art. It's around this time that she discovers abstract expressionist painter Agnes Martin and embarks on a journey to immerse herself in Martin's life.

JoAnna Novak joins Taya Jae to discuss the intersection of mental illness, an eating disorder, art and motherhood, and what she learned from Martin along the way.

JoAnna's book, Contradiction Days: An Artist on the Verge of Motherhood is out now from Catapult press.

The first time Taya was on the radio was a KVNF pledge drive promo recorded in 1998, she was 5. It went something like this, “I like KVNF because it’s fun to listen to music” she goes on to say, “music is like a dream”.